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Apple’s Claim for iPhone to Run Full Web is Misleading

Posted June 21, 2007 3:00 AM by Gregory Ng
Categories: Safari Specs 

In the current TV advertisements for the iPhone, Apple claims that “this is not a watered down version of the internet.”

But according to Mobile Business Magazine, this claim may be a tad misleading.

Near essential applications such as Flash and Java will not be viewable at all on the iPhone and JavaScript applications will be limited to just five seconds runtime when using the built-in Safari browser

The YouTube announcement is certainly a huge development for Apple and the iPhone but based on this Java and Flash limitation, fully-blown websites won’t be accurately viewed on the iPhone’s version of Safari.

So will this limitation play a huge role towards the success of the iPhone? And will the majority of people really notice a difference?

[Via MBMagazine]

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  1. I’m guessing most people won’t notice the difference, but there are so many sites now that use Flash for navigation (I just made 2 for a client) or have cool splash pages (like movie release sites), that I’m guessing some people might be upset when they try and access the “full web.”  I also use Flash to play audio previews on my music licensing site, which I guess will be broken on the iP - I guess it’s time to go back to QuickTime audio previews, which I’m assuming will play fine. smile

    Posted by Royalty Free Music on June 21, 2007 4:55 AM

  2. Whoever wrote the article hasnt got a clue what they are talking about.  Java is essential on the web? Really?

    And the 5 second javascript limit is more than enough. That was the default for Firefox for a while.

    Posted by Project on June 21, 2007 5:02 AM

  3. Unbelievable. This is the reason why everything has been so quiet. Apple’s been silent about iPhone’s abilities (or disabilities) that it is rather embarassing to know that it doesn’t run a full java enabled site.

    Posted by Absolution on June 21, 2007 5:23 AM

  4. People, please. Whoever wrote that article in mobile business magazine, doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

    The web is NOT defined by whether you’re running Java or if you have the latest Flash plugin… no matter what Adobe or Sun would have you believe.  It’s NOT. The “full web” is about having a solid modern Internet browser that supports javascript, cookies, DHTML, and the latest HTML 4 standard. Adobe tried to push the Open SVG standard back when Internet Explorer had fallen asleep on updates, and stopped. Firefox, Opera, and Safari have stepped up to the bat, and Web 2.0 is leading the way.

    Apple will support Quicktime, obviously, but battery draining boondoggles like Flash and Java need not apply. Out of all the technologies on the web, I see Flash and Java as being two if the most NEEDLESSLY over-used technologies. I was looking at a Nokia 800 demo on YouTube the other day, and it was creeking along with its Flash player implementation. When it got to video, it just stopped out right. Flash and Java make the WWW unsearchable, and usually serve to permanently obscure parts of the Internet and make it less usable.

    “Misleading”?  No, its “misleading” if people keep perpetuating that the Internet revolves around proprietary plugins and extensions like Flash and Java and not open standards implementations. Live Motion should still be sold in my opinion. Unless Adobe let’s “Flash” be intgrated into the browser, I think people should kid themselves. Stop the Flash-based storefronts! Script.aculo.us, people. Get to learning it. Get back to creating “web sites”.

    Posted by Cleverboy on June 21, 2007 8:28 AM

  5. Cleverboy, for the sake of constructive argument here <g>, please show me some scriptaculous javascript that a non-programmer type can do that looks something like bzzzbee.com (with synchronized audio).  I’m not suggesting that this type of content ‘should’ be on the web, but it is, and it uses Flash because that’s the easiest way (that I know of) to do it. smile

    Posted by Royalty Free Music on June 21, 2007 1:59 PM

  6. Well said Cleverboy!...I remember having items like java blocked out when using certain web browsers and it didn’t effect my use of the internet.  I guess if I create a site that used a new type of plug-in that no browser could use then that would make them useless because they couldn’t play my one site with the plug-in I created? I think not. Cleverboy said it best. The Internet is not defined by these plug-ins, get over it. Lets find something else to magically come up with to complain about shall we.

    Posted by Kalel on June 21, 2007 4:06 PM

  7. I don’t think it’s about the Internet being defined by plug-ins like Flash, but rather what the experience will be for the average iPhone user on the “full web” compared to what they now get on every other non-mobile browser that likely has Flash installed (like, 98% or soemthing).  Techie type like us will get around it and eventually there will be other ways to replace most of the Flash capabilities, but then again, some people turn off java and javascript becasue they are scared about security - What kind of experience will they have when everything is AJAX? wink

    Posted by Royalty Free Music on June 21, 2007 5:21 PM

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