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Why Flash has to come to the iPhone.. Well maybe not

Posted November 20, 2008 8:48 AM by Chris Seibold

imageYou can’t mention “Flash” and “iPhone” in the same breath without people getting a little huffy. It is honestly surprising how passionate people can be about not having Flash on the iPhone. Passion aside people have a lot of reasons not to have Flash on the iPhone.

While Flash would be nice on my iPhone, I’ll be damned if I want Safari crashing every time it comes to a Flash-based web site because of the poorly developed plugin software.
D9

That is a moderate approach to the issue. D9 is willing to trade stability for the lack of Flash. Other points revolve around how slow Flash is on OS X. Some people maintain that it will max out a Quad core Mac Pro (when I experimented with various Flash intesive sites my machines experienced only a moderate bump in CPU usage. I tried it on a MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac 3.0, and PowerMac G5 with similar results for each machine. I know, I know I own too many Macs). Then there is the issue of how it would run on the iPhone. The iPhone’s processor is slower than a full blown computers processor so it would have to be just awful.

Okay, so the complaints such as they were, (I’m leaving out a few) come down to stability, speed and the trashiness that is the world of Flash. It is easy to appreciate all those issues. Who would want an iPhone that crashed all the time? Who would want an iPhone that ran Flash so slowly that is was all but unusable.

But let’s hold on a moment. Are those valid reasons to keep Flash off of the iPhone? Just because Flash is horrible means nothing. There are plenty of horrible iPhone Apps. Being in the App Store doesn’t mean the app is worthwhile (obviously) it only means that Apple is planning a competing app anytime soon. You also have to wonder just how horrible the performance would be. I’ve seen demos of Flash running on the G1 and that machine sports a 528 MHz processor and is powered by Linux. Windows Mobile based phones can run the thing. Would it really be that awful on the iPhone’s 620 MHz ARM processor? Does it matter if it is awful?

Really, this is what it is seemingly coming down to: Is it better to have a choice to install Flash on your iPhone or better to have Apple dictate that decision to you. In general it is better to let the user decide. If you own a Mac you can install (or at least try) to install any program you desire. It doesn’t matter if it a script that can wipe your machine clean or install the latest hard drive hungry bloat ware known as Microsoft Office. Why should the iPhone be any different?

Well, there are obvious reasons. You wouldn’t want the iPhone sucking down ungodly amounts of data, or a phone that can pass along your data without your knowledge. There are a plethora of other reasons not to let a program on the iPhone platform but crappiness isn’t one of them.

But is there a legit reason to keep flash off the iPhone? Data, no. Crappiness, no. App Store rules? um, yeah. From Armas:

Apple clearly stated no Java or interpreted languages on iPhone.

If that is what is keeping Flash off the iPhone, if it is a case of Apple being consistent in what can make it into the App Store then it is hard to disagree with that decision. So no Flash for the iPhone until Apple changes the rules. I’m not sure that is the best move for the iPhone but I am positive that the more consistent Apple is with the App Store rules the better the iPhone environment will be.

 

 

Comments

  1. Why exactly do people want flash on their phone or iphone?

    Is it just some automatic response because they think they want it?

    okay, you can play games on the web but now that we have real apps, next?

    To view ads? Aren’t 90% of flash on the internet ads? Sure, there are nice sites using flash but clearly they know flash is annoying as 99% have an flash opt out choice ...

    So, all those who want flash, step up and tell us why you want flash?

    Posted by jbelkin on November 20, 2008 2:31 PM
  2. jbelkin: non-YouTube video sites.

    Posted by g. dewald on November 20, 2008 3:02 PM
  3. HTML5 makes Flash redundant.  I hope Apple drags their feet until WebKit is fully HTML5 compliant.

    Posted by TDShadow on November 20, 2008 3:03 PM
  4. If Apple wants to use the iPod Touch in the education market, they better get Flash to work. Almost every online education program is Flash-based.

    No Flash, no sale.
    So if they are looking at the larger K12 education market, they better get Flash.

    Posted by Tim on November 20, 2008 5:27 PM
  5. The iPhone is an appliance, not a general purpose computer.  It is intended for a wide audience that is not necessarily technologically literate. Apple wants to keep things simple.

    Let’s assume that Apple allows Flash on the iPhone. When Safari crashes or runs slow (because of Flash), most users are going to blame Apple. The average user doesn’t know didly about browser plug-ins.  Why should Apple have to pay support staff to tell disgruntled users to turn off Flash?

    Posted by Brett on November 20, 2008 7:39 PM
  6. Flash is coming to the G1, like it or not. I have the 3G iPhone and love it. But, lack of Flash support would be a serious consideration in making me switch to a G1 or other Android phone when my contract ends.

    Why do I want Flash?

    1. Flash is a major app in website development. There are many websites that use Flash elements for navigation, playback, etc.

    2. Games. Yes, there are a lot of games on the app store. But there are also a lot of games on the internet at large. Why would I want to limit myself?

    3. Other applications and video sites. Again, Flash is used an application development platform, and as mentioned above, there are many applications and websites that make use of Flash to create interesting interactive applications.

    According to Adobe (yes, not an unbiased source), 98% of all desktop users have Flash support in their browsers. Flash is an integral part of the web, and I’m not happy with Apple dictating that I can’t have it on my device because they can’t control the content or applications delivered through it. If that trend continues, I’ll switch to an open platform device.

    Posted by choerner on November 25, 2008 1:01 PM

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